New poll showing Kennedy vulnerability is poorly designed
Posted by: Brian Hull
in Patrick Kennedy
on February 05, 2010
Not surprisingly, the new WPRI poll is being touted as the possible end of Patrick Kennedy’s political career. I’m not sure that’s entirely true because the survey design doesn’t actually give a very accurate measure of public sentiment.
The poll shows 31 percent of those interviewed said they would “consider another” candidate and 28 percent said they would “vote to replace” Kennedy. Those who would re-elect the eight-term Congressman came in at 35 percent. Five percent weren’t sure.
What does “consider another” candidate actually mean? I suppose I would also consider someone else, but when it comes down to voting for either Kennedy or Loughlin, I’m going to vote for Kennedy. That’s my frustration with the poll.
Whenever there is an illusory alternative, people find it more attractive than if given a hard choice. When questions are asked about whether or not people would vote for a Republican of Democrat in the next election, or “consider another,” the results are largely meaningless.
The polling firm Fleming & Associates (is that the same Joe Fleming who is on Paiva-Weed’s payroll?) should have asked “if the election were held today, for whom would you vote: Democrat Patrick Kennedy, or Republican John Loughlin?" Maybe then we would have a better understanding of how people felt about Kennedy.
Additionally, there is an over sampling of Republicans, and under sampling of Democrats and Independents.
The poll was conducted by phone January 27 through January 31, 2010. Reflecting the political canvas of the state; 39 percent of those polled considered themselves Democrat, 17 percent Republican and 41 percent Independent. Statewide statistics -- 500 registered voters -- comes with a 4.4 percent margin of error.
In a September 2008 Brown University survey, Patrick Kennedy’s job performance was as follows:
15. How would you rate the job Patrick Kennedy is doing as U.S. representative? Excellent 11.1%; Good 35.6%; Only fair 26.6%; Poor 20.2%; Don’t know/No answer 6.5%
While only 47% of voters said they thought Kennedy was doing an excellent of good job, he got almost 69% of the vote in the November 2008 general election.

What all this means is that poor survey design, or surveys taken out of context, means poor survey results.
I suppose that if you wanted to create a poll that reflects what the media frame currently is, that a specific Democrat named Kennedy may lose he seat as did Coakley lost another Kennedy seat in Massachusetts, this is the perfect poll. If you want an accurate result of what people in the state (or more specifically, likely voters in District 1) are actually feeling about Kennedy, this poll fails to do that in any meaningful way.

written by Rhode Island X, February 05, 2010
written by forsanri, February 05, 2010
Something dynamic happened between your 2008 polling data and today: President Barack Obama. Democrats (led by Obama) failed to deliver, and people want change. Voters think Democrats are weak -- and I'm in this camp -- because if Democrats don't fight for what they believe in, then what will they fight for?
written by right_of_center, February 05, 2010
I've learned to never count out any incumbent, but if Loughlin can avoid missteps, this election could be Kennedy's closest since Vigilante.
written by Steve A., February 05, 2010
written by Rhody, February 05, 2010
The promotion monkeys seemed to be dying for a Scott Brown effect.
written by Libby Kimzey, February 05, 2010
elemare, take it or leave it, but when voters cast their ballots, name recognition will always be a factor.
written by VeganFuture, February 05, 2010
written by al toke, February 05, 2010
Nine months to November, a lot can happen and incumbents can make things happen. Nine months is can be lifetime time in politics, especially in a campaign year. Scott Brown had a lot of money and Coakley was a lazy candidate who took a win for granted in the bluest state in the union.
John Loughlin, Kennedy's now-announced opponent should keep in mind an old political adage "you can't beat somebody with nobody" ; Patrick Kennedy is not a 'nobody'. John Loughlin is.
written by elemare, February 06, 2010
Three words: February Ratings Sweeps
Lately, Kennedy has made some real bonehead moves - more ridiculous than usual, that is - and gotten a lot of bad press nationally over them. Picking a fight with the Bishop of Providence, then playing the victim, didn't sit well with a lot of Catholics; avoiding a public discussion with his constituents about health care this summer didn't go over well either. Calling Coakley "Marcia," well, what can I say. And now dismissing the Brown campaign as a joke and "overblown" is pissing off RI independents and Tea Partiers, some of whom crossed state lines to help make that happen... who is advising this guy? All of those people he has insulted and alienated are the same ones on whom a large part of his political future rests.
I wonder - if the numbers continue to deteriorate and if the support continues to erode - whether Patrick will "retire" and bow out of the race. Might be better to leave on his own than be humiliated by a loss. He's not a very good orator, never mind being pegged in a debate. Any thoughts?
written by Evan, February 06, 2010
So let's put the Republicans back in power!
Makes perfect sense.
written by ajm3s, February 06, 2010
The tea party whether you are for, against or indifferent is making an impact in this country. They are getting organized to effectively counter the arguements of Big Government and centralize government.
Vote 2010. That is the ultimate poll. FYI. Kennedy has never and will not get my vote in 2010.
written by elemare, February 06, 2010
To make matters worse: although lip service is paid to differences between those two, it's basically a system of democans and republicrats.
No change there.
But that doesn't mean settle for status quo and create a career for politicians just because you recognize their names... or remember fondly candidates' dear departed - and far more effective - relatives (e.g., squishy Chafee, who has the platform of Barney the Purple Dinosaur.) The system might work better with a little more revolving door action.
written by 1morejerk, February 06, 2010
written by Evan, February 06, 2010
That said, perhaps a superior Democratic candidate would have fared far better against Scott Brown. This is a man with very little substance who acted like "every man" because he drives a truck - despite the fact that the policies he supports actually inflict harm upon "every man".
I was simply pointing out the flawed logic in electing Scott Brown to represent the "people." It is an often-told narrative, and certainly nothing new. In 2004 we had two blue bloods running against each other. One, for the most part, had policies hat inflicted harm upon the middle class. The other, for the most part, had policies that were more favorable to said class. But the former acted like "every man", a guy you could "have a beer with", whereas the latter was more cold and disengaged. So self-projection trumped policy.
And that is exactly what's happened here. I don't see one thing in Scott Brown's policiy proposals that points to the renewal of the middle class. It's all extremely vague. So if you want Barney, I'd look at Mr. Brown, not Mr. Chafee.
And yet, even Scott Brown says the Tea Party had very little to do with his election. It's one of the few intelligent things he's said. I hope he enjoys his two years, it's all he's likely to get.






A poll question worded that way could be more a reflection on Loughlin's lack of name recognition than voter satisfaction with Kennedy.
The Camelot-philes are dying off in larger numbers each year. They had been Kennedy's solid base, due to their mistaken transference of admiration and respect for John onto a faulty, and unworthy replica. As a newer generation fills his favorite campaign grounds - nursing homes - and with the last brother Ted gone, voters are more aware that THIS Kennedy mystique is really just a Kennedy mistake.