A native-born Rhode Islander, educated in Providence Public Schools, went to college in North Carolina and a political junkie and pessimistic optimist.

6 responses to “Polls Show Why Few Counted David Cicilline Out”

  1. donroach

    Sam, I believe you are correct to say that progressives can smile. A bit.
    The person who could have used Providence against the mayor is his former opponent in 2010, John Loughlin. Loughlin would be ahead of Cicilline today and he’s much further to the right than Doherty. Loughlin is the one who told Rhode Islanders that the mayor was “misstating”…err…not telling the truth about Providence’s finances. He’d have the legitimacy to make attacks against the mayor all day.
     
    In fact, I think the Doherty campaign should run an add doing just that…showing loughlin’s attacks against the former mayor in 2010 with a video montage of Taveras shaking and baking to keep providence out of bankruptcy to Cicilline apologizing. Ending the advertisment with this…Can Rhode Island afford to elect a politician who will do anything to win….again? or some derivation. Fade to black with a Cicilline dissident talking about being disillusioned.
    But yes, Cicilline has a lead…a lead that is technically in the statistical margin of error…and a lead that is much less than what the Cicilline camp was pushing a week or so ago. Doherty has time on his side whereas Cicilline wishes the election were today. And I also agree that the Cicilline campaign machine is excellent, that’s why I detest Cicilline. He’s a great politician, but in my opinion, is the worst politician for Rhode Island because he will do anything to win. Even not tell the truth about the fiscal state of the city for which he presided over for eight years.
     
    I just can’t see why progressives line up to support this guy.

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  2. David Vogel

    Sam,
     
    Last week, I was on the radio for two segments with Ian Donnis (WRNI Radio), and was on “10 News Conference” with both Mr. Cicilline and Mr. Doherty (WJAR TV); all three pieces are available as podcasts on the net, so it’s not as though you have “missed” them somehow.  Moreover, I do have a website which is easily accessible (just click my name at the top of this post).
     
    I believe these items would give the listener/viewer/reader a good basic understanding of how I think.  Given how easy it would be to listen/view/read them, it’s a bit disingenuous for someone who not only pays attention to this topic, but who also writes about regularly, to claim that she or he is “still trying to understand many of his policy positions.”
     
    It tells me that either the available material is not as clear as I had thought (which is possible), or that you simply have not bothered to examine any of it (which I believe is more likely).
     
     
    David

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  3. donroach

    Sam, regarding losing a campaign. I think you’re dead wrong there. We have Whitehouse and Chafee as statewide officials to prove my point. Rhode Island voters are really interesting, they like longevity and people who will run on more than a lark.

    That’s why I believe Loughlin would have posed a greater threat to Cicilline even though he’d be coming at him from a farther right position.

    No doubt Cicilline is an excellent campaigner and has been able to effectively focus the debate on issues that are important for him. He was in a bad position, but I unlike you, I did not believe his chances were minimal. Indeed, I was hoping/praying that the RI public would fault him for his wrongs, but RI voters are very forgiving. And I think Doherty hung back too long resting on the Feb. poll numbers instead of focusing the debate on issues that favored him.

    …but I have not given up hope that the ABC (Anybody But Cicilline) can pull out a victory next month.       

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  4. David Vogel

    Sam,
     
    I do understand that when someone is covering/writing about a topic as complex as politics, being busy is par for the course.
     
    With respect to the “10 News Conference” program, most of the banter was created by my opponents.  As we began to tape the segment, I attributed their hyperactivity to the pent-up energy that I felt surely must have present for each one of them; after all, this was the first time the candidates had been face-to-face since election season commenced.  It was not until about fifteen minutes into the taping that I realized that not only were they not going to stop, but that neither of the hosts seemed to have either the ability or the interest in controlling the flow of the program.  One other note:  Prior to our going on the set, Mr. Rappleye had made it clear to all of us that the discussion was meant to be just that — a discussion; he expressly told us that this was NOT a debate.  I took that to mean that the format was to be Q & A.  I was rather surprised when it finally dawned upon me that I was the only one of the three who had paid attention to the ground-rules as enunciated by our hosts.
     
    In any event, if you have any interest in learning more about me, my e-mail address is listed on the last page of my website.  Shoot me an e-mail with your phone number, and I will be happy to call you and discuss anything you like and/or answer any questions you might have.  Because I have made the decision to not accept any campaign donations, I have an inherent inability to flood the airwaves with vacuous platitudes and meaningless soundbites.  I must find other ways to “spread the word” and, if that means I need to hold the occasional lengthy one-on-one conversation, then so be it.
     
    Hope to hear from you.
     
     
    David

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