Steve Ahlquist is a writer, artist and current president of the Humanists of Rhode Island, a non-profit group dedicated to reason, compassion, optimism and action. He also maintains the blog Caution Church Ahead, where he writes on the intersection of religion and politics. The views expressed are his own not necessarily those of any organization of which he is a member.

18 responses to “The Bishop Has No Clothes”

  1. Barry

    I think Tobin is disgusting but as a non-Catholic it is has been very hard to criticize the hierarchy even though they are so involved with, and influential in, public policy debates.  But I will add the rot starts not with Bishop Tobin, but in the Vatican, where previous popes protected pedophile-protecting Cardinal Law, where they presided over worldwide child abuse, where they led a campaing against condoms that resulted in a worse spread of AIDS, and the current pope, like Tobin, has shown much more interest in trying to force ridiculous Catholic sexual views on the world rather than showing any interest in social justice aspects of Catholic thought. 

    As I’ve heard, Catholic schoolgirls for whom the indoctrination doesn’t take, say if the pope could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament.  And does anyone else remember the US Secretary of Agriculture say in this contact – if he doesn’t play the game he cannot mae the rules.  Unimaginable nowadays. 

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  2. Thom Cahir

    Seriously, what is a bishop but a politician? When we joke that when every US Senator looks in the mirror and sees a president; the same is true for a bishop that looks in the mirror, except instead of a president, they see a cardinal. The truly intellectual and genuinely moral members of the Catholic priesthood routinely get overlooked for promotion in favor of the ideologues and secret-keepers. It’s disgusting.
     

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  3. JohnnyM

    As a former church going Catholic, I have to agree that this church has become nothing but another disgusting  political party.  I fought off the thoughts of hypocrisy for years and finally could not take it anymore.  How can you politically stand behind an organization that protects pedophiles and promotes homosexuality from within its ranks?  Instead of using their enormously full coffers to feed and clothe the poor (as they tell us we should do), they have used it to pay off anyone who claims to have been “touched” by one of their priests.  This is basically another way to push sexual abuse allegations down and out of the media.  They have been hoarding wealth for years and shamelessly continue to beg for more money every week.  This is what eventually drove me away…    

    On the abortion vs. capital punishment issue…   come on, it’s the same thing; the taking a of a human life.  If you don’t believe that a fetus is a human life, then why do you have funerals for stillborns?  Morally, it’s the same act regardless of the circumstance.  There can’t be any “in some cases it’s moral to take a life”  It’s either all or nothing.  This is nothing but the typical wishy-washy-ness of a political party trying to gain favor with it’s constituents and pushing it’s political agenda.

    I’d be interested in hearing what the Vatican and the bishop have to say about paying taxes.  I mean it’s not like they don’t use any public services….

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  4. DogDiesel

    You’re portrayal of the Catholic Church as the only road block to same sex marriage is presumptuous at best. I’m no Catholic and don’t agree with them much but they are citizens like any other and are entitled to their positions. Secondly, you’re trying pile on by misrepresenting his position on the prayer banner. You’re blaming him for the votes of politicians who represent constituencies. This isn’t about the Church. It’s about politics and he’s just another voice. If you have a problem with hypocrisy, how about Democrats? The party of unions and living wages but also the party of illegal immigration and theft of jobs. The party of raising taxes on the rich until they’re in power. Now that’s some serious hypocrisy.

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  5. dclinker

    Steve and all:

    This is really a well-researched article.  Thank you for taking the time to do the detail work.

    Duane
    OTC 

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  6. dubnotdubya

    On the marriage equality debate, Tobin said:

    …let me emphasize [when] we [the Roman Catholic Church] participate in these public debates it’s never intended to be insulting or personally offensive [to people of] same-sex orientation. They are children of God and certainly our brothers and sisters in the community.

    And yet, when civil unions were approved, part of his statement in response said, “Can there be any doubt that Almighty God will, in His own time and way, pass judgment upon our state, its leaders and citizens, for abandoning His commands and embracing public immorality?”
    So, God will punish Rhode Island for passing civil unions? I’d say that is more than a little insulting and personally offensive.
    Thanks for your post. You did a good job pointing out his double-talk.
     
     

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  7. Bill Monroe

    Tobin is real throw-back to the 1930′s era Catholic Church in Spain when……….
    “In quashing democracy and timid agricultural reform, and in restoring the traditional hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church, the army, big landowners and an authoritarian state, the Spanish version of fascism was very much a fundamentalist movement. And like so many political and religious fundamentalisms, it had a particular ferocity toward women. Franco’s troops practiced gang rape to frighten newly captured towns into submission, and until media-savvy superiors silenced them, his officers even boasted about this to American and British correspondents. Tens of thousands of women had their heads shaved and were force-fed castor oil (a powerful laxative), then jeered as they were paraded through the streets soiling themselves. Many had their breasts branded with the Falangist symbol of yoke and arrows. In Toledo, a United Press correspondent reported, Franco’s soldiers shot more than 20 pregnant women from a maternity hospital. Much larger all-female groups were executed elsewhere. Troops marched through one town waving rifles adorned with the underwear of women they had raped and murdered. “It is necessary to spread terror,” one of Franco’s senior generals declared. “We have to create the impression of mastery, eliminating without scruples or hesitation all those who do not think as we do.””
    www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/books/review/the-spanish-holocaust-by-paul-preston.html?pagewanted=all

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  8. rmoreira

    Well said Dog Diesel, Steve Ahlquist is anti Tobin and Anti Catholic Church all together. Like you said double standards.
    On another note also mentioned in this article as far as I’m concerned the Pleau case should be handed to the feds and let the feds handle him. Death penalty or not – we keep defending the criminals and this is no different than the church defending the priests and people that were charged with child molestation. I can tell you that I’m surprised that no one in the Pleau family hasn’t taken the law into their own hands. 

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  9. tlamora

    DogDiesel, I agree with you that they (the bishop) “are entitle to their positions”, but when you are the head of the diocese your position has far more weight than the average person.  When the bishop denied Patrick Kennedy taking communion he was doing far more than expressing his opinion.  He was using his authority in the church to either punish Kennedy or coerce him into falling in line.  Should we have any doubt that this was also intended as a message to other politicians.  And if you have any doubt that this kind of pressure has influence in the state house talk to a few legislators, and I think it will become clear.  

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  10. Sully

    “He was using his authority in the church to either punish Kennedy or coerce him into falling in line.”
    You say that like its a bad thing! I think the church is wrong on gay marriage an a number of other issues, but no one is forcing Kennedy or any other person to associate themselves with the Catholic Church. Much like any other organization, if you want to identify as a Catholic (an enjoy their support) you need to play by their rules.

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    1. PinkHatLib

      Fine by me. But if you think the church is involved in lobbying they should be paying their taxes like any other lobbyist.

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      1. Sully

        I think it is a bit of a stretch to suggest that a church has to provide communion to an elected official in order to comply with lobbying laws, and denying a sacrament is a form of lobbying. But even if that were the case, I am sure I don’t have to tell you that all 501(c)(3) organizations, not just churches) are allowed to engage in limited lobbying activities without running afoul of tax laws – provided lobbying is not a substantial part of the organizations activities.
         

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  11. DogDiesel

    tlamora,
    You’re inadvertently using the church as an excuse for politicians’ poor behavior. Like Sully said, you either identify with the church or you don’t. It’s your choice.

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  12. SailorJack209

    Well done, Steve.  I am using your article in an review of mine for my History of RI class at URI.  The book is Ballots and Bibles: ethnic politics and the Catholic Church in Providence by Evelyn Savidge Sterne, who also teaches at URI.  

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  13. Craig OConnor

    Thank you Steve, for this.  The important point you make is that Tobin is a hypocrite and opportunist - only standing strong on the issues he wants to, not on all the teachings of the Church. 

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  14. tlamora

    “Much like any other organization, if you want to identify as a Catholic (an enjoy their support) you need to play by their rules.” That’s the concern people had when John Kennedy ran for president.  That the Catholic church would force him to play by their rules.  It seemed far fetched at the time, not so far fetched today.  

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    1. Sully

      I think its less likely today than it was in the 60′s. I think the Church’s influence has decreased, not increased since then. Maybe I am naive, but I am not all that concerned about a church controlling a Manchurian Candidate.

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  15. leftyrite

    I understand that the position of butler is open at the Vatican.

    This is made for tv, a “situation tragedy” (thanks, Max,) if you will.

    The pope is a former Hitler Youth with a self-confessed passion for nice cars and bling. THe angels want to wear his red shoes.

    Now, we see that one of his boys got tired of holding the umbrella.

    The Vatican is a money laundry and entire church congregations are being ousted so that Rome can pay its legal bills to victims.

    Please, Bishop Tobin, lecture us further on morality– and give us a full, unvarnished report on the above-mentioned mess.

    There’s a Fox contract in here someplace– as a reality show or as cultural defense. Sean, sharpen your pencils and call the Bishop. 

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