A native-born Rhode Islander, educated in Providence Public Schools, went to college in North Carolina and a political junkie and pessimistic optimist.

19 responses to “The new Raimondomania”

  1. Aaron Regunberg

    The thesis of this – progressives should celebrate when people run on progressive platforms rather than nitpick them – is only true if, in fact, people have a track record of following through on progressive promises. If a skilled politician who knows her right flank is shored up and resistant to challenges decides that the best way to win a Democratic primary against an opponent who has lost a lot of support from the left is to tack left, well that’s fine, but I would suggest it says very little about what a Governor Raimondo would actually prioritize.

    Sam, you know the bait-and-switch as well as anyone.

    In any case, I think the main point of this election is the left needs to build a stronger organization to hold folks accountable for after the election, whoever they may be.

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    1. Jason Becker

      I think you’re missing a large part of the point, Aaron.

       

      Though Sam gets a bit Kumbaya at the end, I don’t think his point is that you have to support Raimondo today, or trust her ever. Instead, the point is that reflexively attaching an agenda which, he’s right, would be assessed from any other candidate as very welled aligned with progressive platforms across the country is silly. You can dislike the person and you can distrust the person, but the idea is not “right-wing”, evil, wrong, etc because of who said it.

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  2. leftyrite

    Very slick, very ahistorical article. And, of course, I, or anyone else who had read about her history with Wall Street, will use facts from that history any time we want.

    Sam, I’m sure that you’ve read Siedel and Taiibi on Gina. I’m sure that you are aware of Goldman’s record.

    You’re slicing the artful baloney very thin here. Are you looking for a policy job? Or, do you not care where the money comes from as long as it glimmers long enough to accrue power to your heroine?

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  3. leftyrite

    You have super powers!

    Maybe you can make the historical record disappear.

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  4. dclinker

    I don’t think this is about WHO proposes it.  It is about what the proposal is.  IF it worked some kids would be helped.  The state would pay the same (as I understand it), and Wall Street investors would get richer.  That means those kids who were helped would now be at the mercy of an even stronger group of speculators.  That is not a ‘win-win’.  Let’s do it the old fashioned way – let the folks who have made so, so much money off the public, go back to paying a progressive tax, build the education at state expense, and let all the people reap the benefits, and not make those who make money off of other people’s money (aka Wall St.), even stronger.  I don’t care if Lenin rose from the dead and proposed it – it’s a bad deal for the common good.

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    1. Sully

       
      “I don’t think this is about WHO proposes it. It is about what the proposal is.”
       
      Make no mistake, the criticism is entirely about who proposed it. Tom’s post doesn’t discuss the pros and cons of SIBs and whether they are worth looking into. The criticism is: Raimondo proposed the idea, Goldman was involved in one in NYC, therefore SIBs are categorically bad.
       
      This is not uncommon, especially here. Tavaras is celebrated for forcing city unions to accept pension cuts under the threat of a city bankruptcy filing and central falls style pension hatchet jobs. Raimondo is vilified for proposing pension cuts to the state legislature, where they are voted on and enacted. Likewise, the City Pension Plan, headed by Tavares, is invests in hedge funds and other alternative without much of a peep. The State Investment Commission, headed by Raimondo, invests in hedge funds and alternative investments and its national news.  
       

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      1. leftyrite

        Who knew Gina Raimondo four years ago? Most of Rhode Island didn’t. Now, she has a track record, which consists of bringing in large-scale national rightwing money to hammer home her policies.

        Therefore, she has become the focal point for criticism of those policies. 

        If Taveras had Gina’s money and organization, he would be the focal point. So what, anyway?

        We’ve heard all about this bond stuff. It’s good for people who have portfolios.

        Not everyone has the extra money to invest, and not everyone wants to be further marginalized by insider games.

        It comes down to the candidacy of Clay Pell.

        Will he have the capacity to win and to lead?

         

         

         

           

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  5. dclinker

    Of course one can understand the pressure for the “possible” (where affordable housing gets built only if some  speculator somewhere can get a profit through a tax credit or whatever, or with this new idea, the general public must pay some speculator a profit, beyond the normal, just to build a school or pay teachers(!).  So, its never good enough just for the public to pay and the public be served.  No, the public must pay the speculators on Wall St. or elsewhere, for the privilege of social change. . . meaning, of course, that no real change happens for the “common good”, or for the actually building up of the public’s ability to for a society in which people have a chance – even if it doesn’t make a small group extra rich.
    Here’s the thing about this “possible” and “doable” politics – Can ANYBODY argue that its actually a way of building popular demand for change?  That it doesn’t actually make the wealthy stronger?  That it, in fact, offers any way out of our current crisis? 

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    1. PinkHatLib

      “So, its never good enough just for the public to pay and the public be served.”
      You act as if it’s one or the other, and I think we can agree that not all projects should be funded with this model. But why not fund projects that would otherwise go unfunded? 
       
      I think it’s unfair to label these folks “Wall Street speculators” simply for trying to create a business that serves the public good. Why not make RI the Silicon Valley of social impact entrepreneurialism? Progressives need an alternative model for economic development or we’re destined to be stuck with the cut taxes vision of the right.
       
      Consider what these projects actually look like when not framed in the rhetoric of a gubernatorial campaign:
      http://www.fresnobee.com/2013/11/20/3622136/fresno-is-site-of-first-ever-health.html
       
      Fresno has been chosen to pilot a health-care project that could lead to new ways nationally to improve public health and reduce costs for treating chronic diseases.
       
      About 200 lower-income children with asthma are at the center of the two-year demonstration project to show the financial benefits of asthma management and entice investors to invest in a social-impact bond…
       
      The California Endowment has put up $660,000 to launch the Fresno project with Collective Health and Social Finance, Inc., a Boston nonprofit organization and social-impact bond intermediary.
       
      The endowment’s funding will pay for data collection and evaluation to demonstrate that the number of emergency room visits by children with asthma can be reduced through disease management.
       
      Getting investors to pony up money for a social-impact bond will be “based on our ability to demonstrate we’ve saved money on health-care spending and we can pay back investors a portion of those savings,” Brush said.

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      1. cailin rua

        I followed up on the Fresno Asthma initiative. My first question is how were the 200 low income students chosen for this study. Do only low income people get asthma? What are the implications involved in studying how much the poor are costing the healthcare system in this country? Why focus on the poor? Is it to distract from other factors probably far more responsible for healthcare inflation – third party health insurers, pharmaceutical monopolies, the effects of poverty on health, environmental pollution?

        I went to the Center of Disease Control to get information on the demographics involving asthma. Yes, it is more prevalent among certain populations but it is not exclusive to those populations. How relevant will the data collected as a result of this study be?

        This initiative is reminiscent of the kind of Welfare Capitalism and social retooling promoted by Henry Ford. This initiative, it seems to me, would require home monitoring by inspectors carefully reviewing not only lifestyle choices made by the parents involved but also place blame on those whose time is already stretched by focusing on parents who are not able to keep an immaculate household. I don’t see anywhere how these investors might be held accountable for environmental pollution beyond a parent’s control, which is also listed as an asthma trigger by the CDC, that might be caused by another entity where the investors may have also placed their financial “support”.

        This initiative has all the earmarks of another Rockefeller Foundation Third World project taken on to exert more social control than it already does throughout the world. It makes a mockery of representative democracy. It’s also the latest manifestation of casino capitalism. Should the rulers of the counting houses be the ones who rule over society. NO! I definitely don’t think so.

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  6. cailin rua

    Sam, you write:

    It’s not a bond in the sense of a general or moral obligation bond. This is why the Feds use the terminology “pay-for-success contract”. 

    Well, it seems the operative word is “contract”. The term “pay for success” “pay for performance” is used to describe SIB’s but actually refers to a larger class of “bonds” and investment vehicles that bear certain similarities to Social Impact Bonds which also includes other investment schemes such as those known as “human capital performance bonds” or “hucaps”, pioneered by Steve Rothschild:
     
    http://tcbmag.com/Industries/Human-Capital/A-Fresh-Angle?page=1

    Social impact bonds offer investors in government services either a big return or, if a program doesn’t meet its target, nothing at all. These bonds, Rothschild says, are “more of a venture capital investment. It’s not really a bond—it’s a debt instrument. 

    He goes on to say:

    Rothschild distinguishes hucap bonds from general obligation bonds, the instrument that government uses to fund the construction of buildings, roads, and bridges; and from revenue bonds, which support revenue-yielding activities . . .  “States don’t renege on this, because if they did, their other bonds would get re-rated,” he adds. “That’s why they’re sometimes called moral obligation bonds.”

    As much as I understand the differences, the similarities between the different investment vehicles are difficult to ignore. These sorts of neo-liberal “pay for success” schemes have a longer history than the lastest SIB variation of the theme:

    In 1994, Rothschild approached Gary Stern and Art Rolnick, then the president and the chief economist respectively at the Minneapolis Federal Reserve, to help him put the idea of a pay-for-performance model into a formula.

    What you say here echos the motivation and rationale to dream up the moral obligation scheme used by Nelson Rockefeller in the 1960’s:
     
    However, our state legislators have proven unwilling to do the heavy lifting themselves, preferring instead to look towards business for solutions. Social impact bonds aren’t ideal, but they’re better than doing nothing. 
     
    from Edward Jay Epstein

    The political problem, which restrained Rockefeller’s predecessors from constructing public works on a scale of the Egyptian pyramids, was that they could not be paid for out of taxes, since the wrath of the electorate over tax increases would far outweigh any advantages from special interest groups pleased with the expenditures. 

    With characteristic ingenuity, Nelson over-rode this stumbling block to expansion by devising special authorities which could issue long-term debt without the approval of the voters. These bonds were not legally backed by the full faith of the state, since they by-passed constitutional requirement of a referendum, but Nelson pledged the full moral authority of the state the bonds, bond buyers assumed that this pledge was tantamount to a state obligation. Through these “Moral obligation” bonds, as they came to be called, New York State raised over $6 billion. Through these and other innovation, its debt during the Rockefeller administrations rose from $1 billion to $13 billion, allowing Nelson to engage in a massive building and spending.

    While, technically, there will be “no obligation” to pay for lack of success, there are two other possible outcomes in addition to the happy “win win” situation presented by those who want to arouse enthusiasm for these proposals:
     
    1. Investors will want to have intrusive, obsessive control over various social programs  to ensure their return on their investment and also control over the measure the success of the programs invested in. What are the possible conflicts of interest?
    2. As Rothschild points out in the Twin Cities article linked to:
     
    but Rothschild says that such bonds are well-accepted in the financial marketplace. “States don’t renege on this, because if they did, their other bonds would get re-rated,” he adds. “That’s why they’re sometimes called moral obligation bonds.”

    So, if goals that will probably be established through the influence of investors are not met, what would be the situation where a state decided not to pay for a program that didn’t work?
    Who would have the better team of lawyers to determine just what success meant? 

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  7. cailin rua

    This article is as instructive as can be re: end runs around gaining a consensus before saddling the public with the costs of various neo-liberal schemes. One of the most interesting tidbits mixed in with all the other very pertinent facts related by Frias is how the Port Authority was formed. For those whose memories span more than a decade, it will be remembered that it was the Port Authority Sundlun ransacked to ram the the Wyatt prison project through – one of those neo-lib projects placed in a depressed petri dish out of contempt for the poor and powerless portrayed as “concern” for the very same people.

    There is so much more about deja vu all over again in this piece; RIHMFC for instance. What an acronym. Fact is stranger than fiction because fiction has to be believable. So, when one hears a very convincing argument, it might be a good thing to keep that in mind.

    http://cranstononline.com/stories/The-immorality-of-moral-obligation-bonds,82913?category_id=222&town_id=3&sub_type=stories

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