A native-born Rhode Islander, educated in Providence Public Schools, went to college in North Carolina and a political junkie and pessimistic optimist.

10 responses to “Defending American Schools from ‘Reformers’”

  1. Pat Crowley

    Of course the Drive By Reformers will have a stock set of replies to Sam’s well done article:

    1.  You are defending the status quo
    2.  You are defending adult entitlements
    3.  You are not interested in changing an obviously broken system 
    4.  You don’t care about poor minority children because if you did you would recognize (insert talking point of the say here)

    Here’s the thing, the ed reform crowd are the same people ( or same types of people, from the same schools of thought, just a generation removed) who told us that Free Trade would be good for US manufacturing so pass NAFTA and GATT .

    How did that work out for us?
     

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    1. RightToWork

      [This comment has been removed for not adhering to RI Future's rules for comments. www.rifuture.org//about

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      1. Bob Plain

        RTW,

        You are more than welcome to comment on stories, and we appreciate all the time you invest in our work, but please follow our rules for comments, which include: “Do not resort to personal attacks or unconstructive, disruptive behavior.”

        www.rifuture.org//about

        Bob Plain

         

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        1. RightToWork

          Bob – Pat Crowley is a public figure in Rhode Island. He is a very vocal and controversial representative of what is arguably the state’s most powerful public labor union, which represents public school teachers and is relevant to the topic of public education. There are substantive, politically-related reasons why I accused him of hypocrisy, not the least of which is that he regularly and publicly engages in exactly the same kind of political, propagandist behavior he mentioned in this thread. I have seen public figures accused of hypocrisy on this blog many times by contributors, including your own blog articles. Are those all “personal attacks” as well? Why is that allowed but my post was not?

          Also, since you apparently haven’t noticed, commenter “Turbo” has been making a campaign of particularly nasty personal attacks against me and other “right wing” commenters for the past two months, and he has deliberately derailed multiple threads through anti-free market trolling about off-topic irrelevancies like “buy gold,” “9-11 truthers,” and “Glenn Beck.” The other day he accused me of fabricating my law license – is that “constructive” commenting? Is he allowed to regularly engage in that behavior because he does it from a progressive standpoint?

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          1. Bob Plain

            RTW,

            If you want to submit a piece on why a public official is a hypocrite, and can back up that assertion, we’ll consider running that. But you simply calling someone a hypocrite, with no reasoning at all, adds little to the marketplace of ideas AND dissuades people from participating.

            Please attack the idea rather than the person.

            Bob Plain

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            1. RightToWork

              It’s your blog and you can moderate it however you wish, but it was clear from the context of my reply that I was accusing Pat of hypocrisy with regard to the political tactics that he mentioned in his comment. I suppose that Turbo continues to get a free pass to harass libertarian and conservative commenters and troll this site as he pleases then. In any case, it was not my intention to violate the rules. I thought my comment was permissible based on precedent.

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            2. jgardner

              Honestly though, some level of consistency in regards to comment moderation would be appreciated… trolling and nonsensical posts are what lead to the fall of the last iteration of RIF. I’d hate to see that happen again.

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  2. PinkHatLib

    “…blows apart typical reporting on education as essentially taking so-called ‘reformers’ views at face value.”

    Good point but then immediately you and Farhi do just that.

    “American elementary and middle school students have improved their performance on the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study every four years since the tests began in 1995.”

    What evidence is there that improved performance on standardized testing reflects improvement in the quality of education? You’re taking the corporate view at face value, and that’s despite the volumes of evidence that high-stakes testing has exactly the opposite effect on the quality of education.

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  3. nmtaxes

    Maybe we need to take a look at the LaSalle, Hendricken, Moses Brown, etc. educational models.  They seem to working quite well. 

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    1. PinkHatLib

      I agree. What you won’t find is high-stakes testing on steriods or glorified test prep. Oddly that seems not to matter to the “accountability” crowd, who’d rather have one neck to choke than actual improvement.

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