Mark Santow is Associate Professor and Chair of the History Department at University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth, where he teaches classes on U.S. political history, cities, race relations, social policy, and foreign policy. He also serves as Academic Director of the Clemente Course in the Humanities in New Bedford MA, which offers humanities classes to low-income adults for college credit. The co-author of Social Security and the Middle Class Squeeze (2005) and a forthcoming volume on Saul Alinsky and racial segregation, Santow is presently writing a book on home ownership. He blogs at http://chantsdemocratic.blogspot.com/.

8 responses to “Solidarity, For Now? The Many Costs of Labor’s Decline”

  1. PinkHatLib

    “I will use the term ‘liberal’ rather than ‘progressive,’ because in my experience people on the left my age and younger tend to substitute the latter for the former, without knowing the meaning of either.”

    We’ve discussed this here a number of times… I like Sirota’s take. See “What’s the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?”

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    I often get asked what the difference between a “liberal” and a “progressive” is. The questions from the media on this subject are always something like, “Isn’t ‘progressive’ just another name for ‘liberal’ that people want to use because ‘liberal’ has become a bad word?

    The answer, in my opinion, is no – there is a fundamental difference when it comes to core economic issues. It seems to me that traditional “liberals” in our current parlance are those who focus on using taxpayer money to help better society. A “progressive” are those who focus on using government power to make large institutions play by a set of rules…

    Let’s be clear – most progressives are also liberals, and liberal goals in better funding America’s social safety net are noble and critical. It’s the other direction that’s the problem. Many of today’s liberals are not fully comfortable with progressivism as defined in these terms. Many of today’s Democratic politicians, for instance, are simply not comfortable taking a more confrontational posture towards large economic institutions (many of whom fund their campaigns) – institutions that regularly take a confrontational posture towards America’s middle-class.

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  2. PinkHatLib

    “I actually do think his first characterization of progressivism — as something liberals call themselves because they are afraid to call themselves liberals — is largely accurate.”

    Umm, you’re talking to someone who goes by “PinkHatLIB!” I’m hardly afraid of the term so I’m not sure which progressives you think are running from the word. But I also call myself a progressive and began doing so to distance myself from the neoliberals who control the Democratic party. It was a reaction to the 3rd Way neoliberalism of the Clinton era. I thought, if this is liberalism then I’m something else.

    As for historic liberalism, I don’t see it as relevant. You might as well argue that libertarianism is truly a left not a right ideal. You’d be correct, but it also doesn’t matter. To quote Humpty Dumpty:  “When I use a word it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”

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  3. John McGrath

    Liberalism has failed. Why? Because it has helped enough people to become prosperous enough to vote Republican.

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  4. RightToWork

    If it’s true that weaker unions lead to a parade of horribles for the middle class, why is it that there seems to be no real correlation between unionization rates and average and median income of states, or other measures of economic success? By most common measures, some of the most successful states have low unionization rates. Were New Hampshire and Virginia intentionally left off the list? Rhode Island still has a relatively high unionization rate and, by most measures, it is doing very poorly – especially for the middle class. I remain deeply skeptical of these pro-union narratives. One correlation that is quite apparent is that the most unionized states are the most broke in terms of per-capita public debt.

    I also don’t understand why, if these pro-union narratives are all true and unions are essential to prevent egregious abuses of workers, the vast majority of salaried non-union private and public workers aren’t all working horrible hours and getting their salaries slashed. I’m non-union by choice and my managers have been very generous. Why is this the case? Because it’s incredibly difficult to attract talent and it’s expensive and risky to hire and train new people, so they don’t want to lose me or my coworkers. Except in the lowest-skilled positions of the economy, good workers have a good amount of leverage without unions.

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